Delhi Capitals spinner R Ashwin opened up about his chat with coach Ricky Ponting on run-out at non-striker's end, unofficially called 'Mankad', saying the Australian agreed with him although he felt the non-striker shouldn't be dismissed.
In a video titled 'Oru Mellisaana Kodu', meaning 'a thin line', on Ashwin's YoutTube channel, Ponting stressed that batsmen should not 'cheat' by moving out of the crease early and called for a run-penalty instead of a run out.
Calling himself a 'serial run out at non striker end guy', Ashwin asked Ponting his take on the dismissal.
Ponting replied: 'Yeah I totally get where you're coming from, and that's what I said. I wasn't trying to say that you were not justified because it's actually in the laws of the game and you can do it. So if a batsman is cheating and trying to pinch a couple of yards, then I just think we've got to find a way around trying to make batsmen stop cheating," he said.
"We've had this conversation already, I don't want to see anyone running two or three yards down the wicket because that basically is cheating."
Ashwin responded: "Now no balls are being looked at very closely, every single ball of a T20 game, can the batsman also be reprimanded on a similar line?"
Ponting agreed, saying "I think so, I think there should be some sort of a run penalty. If you are to get to the top of the bowling action and stop, and it shows that the batsman is cheating and is out of his crease, I think put a run penalty on him. And do it right from the start because that will stop him right away. Taking 10 runs off the team total because you've taken a yard out of the crease. Those sort of things needs to be looked at."
Ashwin also revealed that Ponting had said Australians speak their minds but are open to other people's point of view.
"No no, we were all in lockdown, and all Australians are always honest and we speak what we feel, and it's up to the listeners to weigh in on what they've heard. It's up to others to whether or not take it in the right or wrong sense. But in general in Australian culture we may speak our minds but we also agree with others' point of view. That's why I said it on a podcast," Ashwin quoted Ponting as saying.
"What I said was, such incidents should be prevented. Because even if a batsman has played well, he shouldn't get out at the non striker's end is my opinion."
Ashwin stressed on his stance, saying batsmen shouldn't be allowed to steal even an inch as bowlers cannot do the same.
"Though he's up against me, he's still a batsman, so I agreed such dismissals shouldn't happen," Ashwin said. "But should they walk (out of the crease)? Many batsmen say they're just walking and not stealing a run and just moving an inch or two, not two feet. I said if batsmen ask this, then can I also take an inch by stepping out of the crease while bowling?
"A Shaun Tait or a Jofra Archer when they're bowling 150 kmph, if they go beyond the bowling crease a bit, they can hit 160 kmph. Should they be allowed? Will the batsman cop the blows or get out? That was my question.
"He said he agreed with me, that he too was in the (rules) committee and upheld the rule, but felt the non striker shouldn't be dismissed. But at the same time he shouldn't go out.
"That's true. Last year when I was Kings XI Punjab's captain, Shreyas Iyer and Ricky Ponting told me that not one of Delhi Capitals batsmen would leave the crease and neither should we, to avoid such a situation. That's the truth."
Ashwin revealed that he even asked Ponting what to do in a situation where the opponent need 2 to win off the last ball in the IPL final, with one wicket in hand. Ashwin had a go at people who blame bowlers for not adhering to 'spirit of cricket', sarcastically calling them 'revolutionaries'.
"What is right (in such a situation)?," Ashwin wondered. "I want to do what is fair. The ones who feel it's unfair should change their mind.
"Anyway, if such an incident happens, the bowler is made out to be the villain and thousands will protest saying spirit of cricket, spirit of cricket. Many say I don't know what spirit of cricket is. But where do they sell the book? I searched everywhere. No shops have the book. In fact, it's not even been published. So first write the book. And then the spirit of cricket revolutionaries should be... ok leave them alone."
Ponting had earlier said that he will be having a conversation with Ashwin about the dismissal.
"I’ll be having a chat with him about (mankad), that’s the first thing I’ll do," Ponting had said on The Grade Cricketer Podcast.
"That’s going to be a conversation and that’s going to be a hard conversation I will have to have with him, but I’m pretty sure he’ll take it on the chin. I think, even him, looking back now, probably he’d say it was within the rules and he’s right to do it, but this is not within the spirit of the game, not in the way I want, at least with the Delhi Capitals anyway."
Ashwin had later taken to Twitter to suggest the concept of a 'free ball', similar to free hit for the batsmen, every time a non-striker walks out of the crease early.
Ashwin was responding to a tweet by Dinesh Karthik, who in his recent interaction with Cricketnext had spoken about his views on the topic.
The IPL will begin on September 19 in the UAE.